Is There a Difference Between Ip Man Kung Fu and Sifu Och Wing Chun?

Posted on October 12, 2016September 6, 2020 by Sifu Justin Och

Frequently, the question is raised as to whether a difference between Ip Man kung fu and Sifu Och Wing Chun exists. The short answer remains no. There is, however, a difference in Wing Chun Sifu’s and what they know, understand or can apply from Ip Man. My personal goal includes understanding, training, and certification under, these different lineages from Ip Man. I do this to get a greater understanding of the Wing Chun system. It has taken to this point in my life so far, but I am now appointed the position of Southeastern USA Regional Director of the World Ving Tsun Association for the America’s.

Genuine Sifu Lineages in Wing Chun

I’m also certified as a Black Gold Sash Sifu by Masters under Ip Chun, Ip Ching, Simin Lau and Moy Yat. All of these great men trained directly with Ip Man. Over the past 4 years I have made efforts to train under Grandmasters and Master’s from the Wong Shun Leung Lineage of Ip Man Wing Chun. This includes Grandmaster David Peterson who has helped me make great strides in this area.

So, no, there’s no appreciable difference between Ip Man kung fu and modern Wing Chun under a well-trained Sifu. For me, it’s about fully understanding Ip Man’s vision. It works with what he left, through all of the eyes and experiences of those he taught most. That is my goal and the goal I have for teaching my Wing Chun students. I want a fuller understanding of Ip Man Wing Chun Kung Fu. I find that I can draw this from each branch that came from this amazing man. This way I can better appreciate and practice his dedication to the art. I hope to reflect his vision and teachings through each student and person that I teach and pass along these skills along to others.

Is Your Sifu a Fraud or the Real Deal?

Posted on September 9, 2016September 6, 2020 by Betsy Olay

There are all kinds of martial arts instructors out there running all types of martial arts schools. Some teachers are well intended but poorly trained. Others are very skilled martial artists, but they don’t have the knack for teaching. Still others are simply out there to push their students through the belt or sash system. Their goal is to make as much money off of those students as they can. So, is your sifu a fraud or the real deal? Read on to find out.

How exactly can you tell if your martial arts instructor is the real deal? While no one is perfect, there are characteristics you should identify in the person to whom you’re going to entrust your martial arts training. There are things you should look for and things you should avoid. I happened to find all the right qualities in Sifu (teacher, master, mentor) Justin Och and hope this article will help you find a true master for yourself.

Is Your Sifu a Fraud? Check Their Credentials!

Are they in a Hall of Fame? Great, but remember most hall of fames are businesses that you can write in what you get and pay them for the award and banquet. Sure, you dressed up, met a bunch of famous people, and took some photos. That doesn’t make you a Sifu.

Look for the certifications that your sifu has earned. Also, how did they earn it? Was it a weekend training course? How would you know? Was their main instructor from outside the country? If so, how did they truly learn the entire system from them? It could be likely they have only been to seminars with this person and done mostly DVD or distance training. How did they train with them if their instructor wasn’t accessible. It takes years of daily, hands-on attention in order to become a sifu. This is a warning sign that the certifications are less than genuine.

Remember, unlike many other systems of martial arts, Wing Chun needs one on one, personal instruction with an upper level master to become better in the finer aspects and details of the system. So what level of understanding and capability does your instructor have compared to others in the USA or other countries?

Training overseas or away from home is amazing and can improve your ability, but claiming certification from someone in another country is a red flag you should watch out for.

Instructors claiming they trained with “so and so” for years but who only have a photo of them standing next to their teacher sitting on a chair, may not be genuine sifus. Look for photos of your instructor in their youth training with the same teacher they claim, and then photos or video of them being older and doing the training. Without REAL (time-spanning) training photos or videos of them over time…well, this is possibly not a genuine instructor.

“But, Sifu is my friend and he is nice to me!” We’ve heard this before, but being nice to you or being your friend doesn’t make them a sifu or a good instructor.

Trust, But Verify

Check their claims. Stop believing things just because people have told you. If a person tells you they had cage fighting experience, look online and type in their name and check for records, photos and video. If you can’t find it, then they might not be a genuine instructor. If they told you they have a purple belt in Brazilian Jiujitsu, but you can’t find any evidence online or otherwise (and the person’s name doesn’t really exist or is unreachable), they might not be a genuine instructor.

Most genuine sifus had to train for a multitude of years one on one and are going to proudly display their certifications and awards in their studio so they can be viewed by their students. Look around. Check out their website. Does he or she say she is certified at all? If so, in what are they certified? Who certified them—and is that organization reputable? Are those certifying organizations huge with hundreds of instructors under one teacher that resides in another country? If so, this could point to the fact that you are not in the presence of a genuine sifu with full training under their sash.

Final Thoughts

Remember there are some fantastic instructors out there that aren’t sifus and can give you a ton of information and make you into a fantastic Wing Chun Kung Fu practitioner. But you should look around, check out different schools, and separate the great ones from the mediocre.

A great instructor doesn’t have to be a sifu, or have a amazing lineage to show you. But how would you know the great instructors from the frauds unless you understand how to tell the difference?

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World Ving Tsun Association Regional Director for the Southeastern USA
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WSL Ving Tsun with David Peterson the Ultimate Perspective

Posted on June 3, 2013October 23, 2024 by Sifu Justin Och

Learn from the Best: David Peterson’s WSL Ving Tsun Training

David Peterson’s Ving Tsun: The Key to Practical and Efficient Combat

First, let me say I’m not a Sifu or certified instructor under Wong Shun Leung Ving Tsun, or David Peterson or Philipp Bayer. But I do have a deep respect for these men, what they teach and who they represent. Everything I say or write here or elsewhere is out of a deep love and respect for the men what they represent.

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No matter your lineage you come from. You will find David Peterson WSL Ving Tsun enlightening, detail oriented, filled with knowledge. You may start your journey with research or David Peterson’s dvd’s. Though this won’t come close to the information he, his instructors, and classes have to offer.

From left to right; Justin Och, Jason Gowan, John Smith, David Peterson, at the London England Wong Shun Leung Ving Tusn Kung Fu Seminar

There are details that are deep within the forms, chi sau, single hand chi sau. Quick combat close range fighting. David Peterson WSL Ving Tsun seeks to improve the understanding, details and applications of every wing chun kung fu practitioner. Friends from every walk of life.

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I would highly recommend training with his Wong Shun Leung instructors. They take their training seriously but are amazingly fun guys to hang around with. A family that wants you to truly understand Wing Chun.

I started speaking with David Peterson back in 2011 and 2012. Though it was in May 2013 when I traveled to London, England. To attend David Peterson’s Wong Shun Leung Ving Tsun Kung Fu seminar. I went to train under the Wong Shun Leung lineage system. Understand where this great fighter, mentor, and instructor of the Ip Man system. Who wanted to take his students and future generations.

From left to right; David Peterson, Justin Och, Elizabeth Och training in Malaysia at David Peterson Headquarters.

David Peterson was joined by many faithful instructors. From John Smith, Ged Kennerk and Jason Gowan as well as many more. After a fun filled weekend filled with techinques, details and laughter. I was invited by David Peterson to join him for his Odense Denmark Seminar. Which I made plans, flight and scheduling at the last moment. To take advantage of this learning opportunity. The seminar was a meeting place for practitioners from every lineage, level and walk of life.

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Catching a flight from London, England I flew into Copenhagen, Denmark. Then took a 2+ hour train into Odense Denmark. Where I joined the Denmark Wing Chun David Peterson WSL group under Morten Ibsen. Morten Ibsen, John Smith, his wife and students were all extremely welcoming during the Denmark seminar. A great group that led there way, helping, and training practitioners from all over Denmark.

I then took a flight with David Peterson, his wife, John Smith and his wife into Manchester England to participate in all of the David Peterson Wong Shun Leung Ving Tsun seminars. Focusing on specific drills, training, footwork and applicable close-fighting techniques. His instructors are open, welcoming and honest.

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David Peterson has a refreshing approach and attitude about the advancement of the Wing Chun system. His approach takes the details of each and every section, form and purpose behind each technique, drill and strike. Wanting those that have real dedication and perseverance to get what they have to offer.

Unlock the Power of Simplicity with David Peterson’s WSL Ving Tsun

It was a pleasure meet and train with David Peterson, John Smith, Jason Gowan, Ged Kennerk, Morten Ibsen and everyone of the instructors and students that I met. Each of them took their personal time to answer any questions and even train personally with me to give and go over the details.
I intend on continuing this training for as long as Wong Shun Leung instructors will have me.

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It was also an great honor to hear David Peterson say “When you get back, tell all of your students Welcome to the Wong Shun Leung family”. I hope there is a way to train from afar, but if not I know Wong Shun Leung Ving Tsun will influence my way of training and progress in some of the best ways!

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